Well at least we got a backup, right?
Right???
It last ran a week ago and we technically haven’t tested it. Just our hot replicas which also just deleted all that data.
And of course by now every downstream system replicated AND CACHED that data.
Holy shit the truth with replication deleting the data you needed too true lmao
I felt a slight jolt of adrenaline on that second “right???” After living through something similar…
ah the cold sweat and clenching of the anus
Backup? What is this backup you speak of?
Back up? No, we only go forward in this company
“That’s why the windshield is bigger than the rear view mirror, we should be vigilant in remaining forward looking.”
Said by an exec in my chain of command when he caused a huge cascading fuck up in the organization and there was no postmortem allowed.
This is what we in the industry refer to as a “big oof.”
I thing the technical term for this is an RGE.
(Resume Generating Event)
But it’s only, like, a handful of rows 🙃
Must be a technical term.
It’s a good way to wake yourself up in the morning
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Can help reduce blood pressure, high cholesterol, weight, height, gender, name and more to NULL! Wake up feeling NULL and NULL!
For everyone’s sanity, please restrict access to the prod DB to like two people. No company wants that to happen to them, and no developer wants to do that.
Me applying for any database access ever: “read only. I do not want write. READ ONLY.”
Datagrip has an option, and likely other database IDEs do as well - “Connect as READONLY”. Makes me feel a little safer
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I don’t use readonly with dbeaver, but I do have the prod servers set to automatically make transactions and have to hit a button to commit. Almost certain it asks confirmation that I want to make the changes to prod which is nice too (I rarely have to touch our sql server prod)
Just a funny story. All of our devs and even BAs used to have prod access. We all knew this was a bad idea and put in a process of hiring a DBA.
I think in the first two weeks the DBA screwed up prod twice. I can’t remember the first mess up but the second he had a lock on the database and then went to lunch.
We eventually hired two awesome DBAs to replace that one but oh boy.
Imagine being hired to help prevent people from fucking something up, only to fuck that thing up in your first week—not once, but twice. You’d think after the first time it wouldn’t happen again…
I would say you can expand that on the following criteria: 1) a lot of people can have read access, but only a few should have write access, and read access should be restricted to specific tables without PII. 2) The people with write access should go through a Change Approval process: they submit the SQL they’re going to run and someone else approves or denies it before it can be done. 3) Every piece of SQL that modifies a table should be annotated with a comment and the ticket number in it in which that change was approved. 4) You should be able to rollback any committed change within an hour of it happening.
8388409 = 2^23 - 199
I may have noticed this on a certain other aggregator site once upon a time, but I’m still none the wiser as to why.
199 rows kind of makes sense for whatever a legitimate query might have been, but if you’re going to make up a number, why 2^23? Why subtract? Am I metaphorically barking up the wrong tree?
Is this merely a mistyping of 8388608 and it was supposed to be ±1 row? Still the wrong (B-)tree?
WHY DO I CARE
Are you Ramanujam reborn or a nerd who put every number they found on wolfram alpha?
In a place for programmer humour, you’ve got to expect there’s at least one person who knows their powers of two. (Though I am missing a few these days).
As for considering me to be Ramanujan reborn, if there’s any of Srinivasa in here, he’s not been given a full deck to work with this time around and that’s not very karmic of whichever deity or deities sent him back.
I know up to like 2^16 or maybe 2^17 while sufficiently caffeinated. Memorizing up to, or beyond, 2^23 is nerd award worthy.
I know that 2^20 is something more that a million because is the maximum number of rows excel can handle.
Ramanujan reborn - the main protagonist from the Wheel of Maths books.
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And you can save a bunch of time by inlining all this into one query
Why update before select? Shouldn’t it be the other way around? (I’m clueless. )
The select after the update is to check if the update went through properly. You can have more selects before the update if you wanted to.
Ah. It makes sense now. Thanks.
The four horsemen of the datapocalypse
Be Safe! Be a BUSCer!
Ah reminds me of the time (back in the LAMP days) when I tried to apply this complicated equation that sales had come up with to our inventory database. This was one of those “just have the junior run it at midnight” type of shops. Anyway, I made a mistake and ended up exactly halving all inventory prices on production. See OP’s picture for my face.
In retrospect, I’m thankful for that memory.
Ive had one of those moments. Where you fuck up so bad that your emotions wrap all the way around from panic, through fear, confusion, rage, dread and back to neutral, and you go 'Hmm…"
Yeah that’s a good way to put it. It’s like so close to the thing you were dreading, that it’s a sort of sick relief when it actually happens.
It’s like…
In T-SQL:
BEGIN TRANSACTION
{query to update/delete records}
(If the query returned the expected amount of affected rows)
COMMIT TRANSACTION
(If the query did not return the expected amount of affected rows)
ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
Note: I’ve been told before that this will lock the affected table(s) until the changes made are committed or rolled back, but after looking it up it looks like it depends on a lot of minor details. Just be careful if you use it in production.
Lol why did I have to scroll so far to see ROLLBACK
Because this is c/programmerhumor and the OP hasn’t covered ROLLBACK yet in his sophomore DB class.
If for example a client application is (accidentally) firing doubled requests to your API, you might get deadlocks in this case. Which is not bad per se, as you don’t want to conform to that behaviour. But it might also happen if you have two client applications with updates to the same resource (patching different fields for example), in that case you’re blocking one party so a retry mechanism in the client or server side might be a solution.
Just something we noticed a while ago when using transactions.
Transactions are the safe way of doing it.
You can also return * to see the changes, or add specific fields.
Like for example:
Begin; Update users Set first_name=‘John’ Where first_name=‘john’ Returning *;
Then your Rollback; Or Commit;
So you’d see all rows you just updated. You can get fancy and do a self join and see the original and updated data if you want. I like to run an identifying query first, so I know hey I should see 87 rows updated or whatever.
Haven’t had any issues with table locks with this, but we use Postgres. YMMV.
Rollback.
I don’t understand environments that don’t wrap things in transactions by default.
Especially since an update or delete without a where clause is considered valid.
I’m a data engineer that occasionally has to work in sql server, I use dbeaver and have our prod servers default to auto-wrap in transactions and I have to push a button and confirm I know it’s prod before it commits changes there, it’s great and has saved me when I accidentally had a script switch servers. For the sandbox server I don’t have that on because the changes there don’t matter except for testing, and we can always remake the thing from scratch in a few hours. I haven’t had an oppsie yet and I hope to keep that streak
No transaction to rollback
Legit have nightmares about this.
Just hit Ctrl+Z to Undo
This is missing NSFW tag!
Transactions are your friend here
Begin transaction;
Then
Your sql here
Double/triple check the messages/console for results. Look good?
Commit;
Worried?
Rollback;
Just be sure to mind your transaction logs for long running queries and by all things holy be sure you’re not doing this to a live db with a ton of transactions since you’re basically pausing any updates until the commit or rollback on the affected tables
This makes it safer but like… don’t run queries on production outside emergencies ever.
That transaction frame, depending on your specific DB, may cause severe performance side effects.
Look, the safe approach is to write it into something, PR it, get it reviewed, and then run it as part of a structured deployment process.
Absolutely. It should have been tested and verified.
Me: “Ok. What’s the big deal.”
Also me: “Less than a million affected. That’s nothing.”
Still me: “Rule 1: Never let pesky details get in the way of a funny meme.”
Ultimately me: 😱😂 “That guy is in for a rough Monday!”
I actually screwed up twice on dev environment. Luckily the second case was salvageable without using data from an old backup(I wasn’t given one that time) and I managed to sweep it up fast.
I started testing my queries super carefully after the first incident, but I was too tired once that I forgot to restrict the update scope for testing and screwed up again.
oopsie daisy moment
