• 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Am I the only one who has to do like 12 of these in a row before my humanity is recognized? Beyond mildly inconvenient, it’s downright annoying now.

    Edit: I use Mullvad + Firefox + Betterfox + uBO. I don’t think my setup is that sophisticated lmao

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    2 months ago

    Ever wonder why these captchas are always cars, bicycles, motorcycles, traffic lights and crosswalks? Because YOU are doing the work of teaching the next generation of AI for self-driving cars.

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      2 months ago

      Can’t wait until we get trolley problem CAPTCHAs and we have to choose the square with the most expendable human lives

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      I don’t believe it, at least not anymore.

      Google has had more than enough data to train AI models from reCAPTCHA for many years. In 2010 it displayed 100 million captchas per day. You simply do not need hundreds of billions of solved captchas in your data set.

      I feel like its only purpose nowadays is stopping basic bots and annoying people who don’t let themselves be tracked as much as advertisers would like.

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        Yeah the most recent version of CAPTCHA is completely seamless for the end user because there is no more value to be had gathering this kind of data. Instead it runs in the background of the web site, looking at your mouse movements/clicks/keystrokes, and determining whether or not you’re a bot based on that information.

        The problem is a lot of websites still use the old version, or their own hacked together CAPTCHA alternative, which decent bots have been able to beat for a while now.

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      My favorite is when it asks me to identify stairs. I just imagine a self-driving car mistaking a set of stairs as more road and deciding to try and climb the steps.

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        Actually, it’s training a self-driving humanoid robot that’s supposed to climb stairs in order to terminate any potential John Connor that’s inside a house upstairs.

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      I can’t believe I never put that 2 and 2 together.

      It stresses how stupid AI is then if it was a human the question would be “is this a stop sign?” So it’s not even asking us to validate data. To me that means AI is still far from being intelligent. It’s requiring our input to learn. That’s not how we operate. My kids don’t require me to show them images of a stop sign for them to know what one is.

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        2 months ago

        You and many other humans are doing verification work

        It’s pretty sure it’s already right, but if enough people get the same image and get it wrong the same way then something’s up, flag it

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            I took some compsci classes years ago when this tech was new and that’s exactly how it was described as being handled

            Once image recognition software got good enough to be right most of the time they started this shit to help get it the rest of the way to all of the time

            Do it any other way and you have to pay those people

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        Theres a CGPGrey video that describes old techniques. It’s not quite up to date on some of its predictions, but it is how some machine learning works. Of course, it doesn’t discuss current proprietary techniques, because those are company secrets. Still, it’s as good a guess we’ll likely get, unless something radically different has been invented:

        https://youtu.be/R9OHn5ZF4Uo

        There is also a second video about more modern stuff, but it’s more a footnote:
        https://youtu.be/wvWpdrfoEv0

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    Recaptcha is one of the worst providers of such services. At times, I need to complete like 10 for being one square off or whatever, while I need a single attempt for e.g. Arkose Labs stuff.

    Sometimes, like in the picture (whether it’s real or not), the captcha is simply wrong and you can’t do it right but by accident. I already did not visit websites because I didn’t feel like giving it another try.

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      Try the audio captcha option, those usually have an actual answer it will accept. Which ironically speech to text is more or less reliably able to solve, and there are extensions to solve captchas automatically for you that way

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      are you using a datacentre IP?

      I’ve found that when i have my VPN connected it will get me to do like dozens of them. if my VPN isn’t connected it is usually just 1 or 2.

      Also when it’s in the cycle of prompting you for dozens of them, skip any like the one in the image above until you get one of the ones that has you select from multiple matching pictures. these seem to be the only ones that matter when it’s in that state.

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      It’s being heavily impacted by AI as well, since the “correct” answer is chosen democratically so if enough bots are answering captchas then they choose whats correct and it becomes better at verifying botity than humanity.

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    i really wish quote tweets (xeets? skeets? yeets?) would put the original post above the response…

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    It takes an extra second or two, but I’ve been using speech-to-text on the audio option. Instead of a chore, it’s an exploit! (Not really but your dopamine doesn’t have to know that)

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    Ok what parts of this would actually count? Do the corners in the 2 panels count? I’ve had to try this version of captcha again so many times

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      I think it’d only be 2 squares for the rectangle of the traffic light.

      I’ve been doing a lot of captchas lately and they always seem to want less outer edge than I expect as a probably human. Like if only a small corner of a bus is in a tile, I just ignore it.

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      As a large language model, I cannot appreciate art. However, this painting by Monet is especially exquisite because of the fine details in the brush strokes and the feeling of space in the …